Pre-planning for the next war

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97567Post Sir Garnet
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:12 am

I find the way to keep things reasonable is to have a reasonable gamemaster to arbitrate things. This person can also play,most likely coop for various countries as needed with the country leader making the decisions and orders for the coop to follow with some guidelines.

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97568Post greyhoundgames
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:06 pm

Im also interested in EU4. It doesn't have a lot of the things that cause issue and its a less win\loose

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97569Post virtualrock
Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:26 pm

Yea as far as I know we’ve only had one vanilla EU4 game so far

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97613Post greyhoundgames
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:13 am

Eu4 also has a lot of potential, it has a lot of solutions to the problems that came up
1) you don't either win or loose
2) you are not tied so heavily to the performance of your allies
3) It doesn't have low level tactical things to min\max and overwhelm people, instead your broad plan needs to be good
4) I think it self-balances as the game goes because people will likely react to threats and ignore people not doing well

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97660Post pedal2000
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:21 am

greyhoundgames wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:13 am
Eu4 also has a lot of potential, it has a lot of solutions to the problems that came up
1) you don't either win or loose
2) you are not tied so heavily to the performance of your allies
3) It doesn't have low level tactical things to min\max and overwhelm people, instead your broad plan needs to be good
4) I think it self-balances as the game goes because people will likely react to threats and ignore people not doing well
No to discourage you but my group's experience with EU4 was that it was very difficult to balance. We did the 'self-balance' thing but ultimately 1-3 players were so far ahead of everyone else in skill/game knowledge they snowballed like crazy. When they're getting going it's hard to intervene because we were not neighbours. Once they've snowballed, they were larger than you and even a few people tackling them are going to find it more difficult than one person with a large army.

That was a while back but we haven't gone back yet.
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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97951Post Altaris
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:13 am

I hear your concern about skill disparity in EU4 but its a lot more an issue in HoI4. Team management is really important in HoI4 as well. If you want a good game I'd suggest putting your two most experienced players as Germany and UK and then draft teams between them so you have a balanced game. Otherwise it'll be lopsided as hell.

CK2 is really the only pds game which doesn't balloon out of control over skill disparity

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97958Post pedal2000
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:22 am

Altaris wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:13 am
I hear your concern about skill disparity in EU4 but its a lot more an issue in HoI4. Team management is really important in HoI4 as well. If you want a good game I'd suggest putting your two most experienced players as Germany and UK and then draft teams between them so you have a balanced game. Otherwise it'll be lopsided as hell.

CK2 is really the only pds game which doesn't balloon out of control over skill disparity
I mentioned that to the group and generally we've decided if the first time we play HOI isn't a perfect balance that's life. Appreciate the heads up though so everyone knows what they're getting into.

Plus I'm America, so if things do go pear shaped it probably won't impact me nuking the world.
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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97960Post aphrochine
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 am

pedal2000 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:22 am
...me nuking the world.
Nukes are fun, but mostly because of the long girlish giggle that Harb lets out every time a nuke is dropped.
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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97962Post harbringerxv8
Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:46 am

Well, excuse me for trying to find some joy in the world, *aphro*. If you can't laugh at turning the Deutsche Afrika Korps and the surrounding Libyan desert into a glass parking lot over and over and over again, well you just aren't living.

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97963Post Altaris
Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:49 am

Hey that was aphro who said that not me :orcass:

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97965Post harbringerxv8
Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:54 pm

Meh, you all look the same to me.
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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

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Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:34 pm

:lol:
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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97976Post Bill
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:32 am

Woot!

There is talk of an HoI4 game?

The mere discussion of such an event might very well successfully summon me from the land of Azeroth!

We might very well have much to be thankful for on this Thanksgiving Day, 2019.

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Re: Pre-planning for the next war

Post: # 97986Post Sir Garnet
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:27 pm

I am interested in rumours of War. Are any substantiated?

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