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Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97654Post harbringerxv8
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:14 pm

Here is a thread for trash-talking, AARs, and other miscellaneous posts relating to the Monday night MOTE Game.

Initial Roster:
France: Alex
Britain: Aphro
Russia: Altaris
Austria: Zarin
Prussia: Harb
Ottoman Empire: V/R
Spain: Mikey
Sweden: ummd

Session 1: Jan 1792-Jan 1794

The game began with many fireworks, as Austria and France began their first war over the Low Countries. Despite some testy situations, the French were able to consolidate a clear victory, taking much of Belgium, though Antwerp and Luxembourg remain in Austrian hands. France also quickly pushed into Switzerland, Piedmont, and Venice, taking most of their respective territories, though Venice has not yet capitulated.

Prussia and Russia began to divide up Poland, with the Western half going to Prussia and the Eastern half going to the Tsar. Polish troops put up some resistance against the Prussians, but were ultimately no match. A few scattered territories remain independent, but barring some great calamity, Poland is doomed.

Russia and the Ottomans, for their part, carved up the remains of Persia, before turning their eyes north and west, respectively. Following a lengthy, exhausting campaign against Sweden, Russia found herself diplomatically pressured by the King of Prussia to abandon her conquest, much to the relief of the Swedes, who had found themselves outnumbered and on the defensive. War reparations were negotiated, and Sweden, for the moment, remains free of chains.

The Ottomans began a lightning advance across the Mediterranean, grabbing territories from Venice, and conquering most of Italy from Sicily, the Papacy, and Tuscany with relative ease. In the early years of the conflict, the Ottomans were very much driving the tempo, with one successful military campaign after another.

However, this was not to last, as, infuriated by this unchecked aggression into strategically critical territory, no less a coalition than France, Great Britain, Spain, and Austria declared war on the Turkish menace. The Ottoman armies in Italy were routed by the French, who then demanded the entire Italian peninsula in a peace deal. Sicily is mostly under British control, with the British navy dominating the Mediterranean, while Austria has been harassing the Balkan frontiers, and has laid siege to the mighty fortress at Belgrade.

Spain, following a quick annexation of Morocco, has troops deep into Algeria, hoping to take more North African territory from the Ottomans while they are still under heavy pressure from their enemies.

In Germany, two distinct spheres of influence have appeared: the Rhineland and southern Germany, administered by the Habsburgs; and Northern and Western Germany, dominated by the Hohenzollerns of Prussia. Thus far, no conflict has broken out between these two mighty forces, though the conquest of the Northern German coast by Prussia has put pressure on the other Baltic powers of Sweden and Russia.

Britain, thus far willing to maintain a largely periphery stance due to the weight of her navy, has managed to obtain the island of Sardinia, and is occupying much of Sicily. They still retain control over their satellite in Hanover, though it is vulnerable and exposed to an attack from Prussia or Denmark.

However, with their occupation of the Italian peninsula, France has, unsurprisingly, emerged as the major threat in Europe. In early January, 1794, Prussia declared war, while Austria masses troops along the Italian frontier.

The wars are only just beginning.
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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97655Post aphrochine
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:45 pm

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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97664Post pedal2000
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:20 am

Great recap! Look forward to seeing the next few moves. France really seems to absorb Italy eh?
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Re: MOTE Fall Game: Round 2

Post: # 97755Post harbringerxv8
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:20 pm

An interesting session, to be sure. Spain, seeking full control over the Iberian Peninsula, declared war on Portugal, which spurred an intervention from Britain. The two countries split the tiny nation, while Spain prepared itself for an invasion of Porto, now a British enclave. Britain retains control of the seas, unwilling to commit significant ground troops to the war against Spain, who is viciously taunting Britain's hesitance. Meanwhile, Porto is currently occupied by the Spanish, though the British retain Gibraltar.

Other countries used this opportunity to make their moves against Britain, including the Ottomans, who were able to retake Crete, and the Prussians, who, following their recovery from their previous defeat against the Russians, managed to obtain Hanover and the Netherlands, making them a significant power in Northern Europe. British attempts at a naval blockade failed miserably, with the Royal Navy stretched far too thin to take full advantage of the smaller Prussian fleet.

In the south, a massive war erupted between France and the Ottomans, on one side, and Austria and Russia, on the other, following an Austrian invasion of independent Venice. Early successes against the Ottomans were not enough for the Coalition forces, as they were able to inflict heavy casualties on the Russians, while the Austrians were repeatedly pushed back in Germany and Italy by the French. Despite their victory, France and the Ottomans only demanded marginal territories to expand their borders, with much of the rest of Northern Italy and the Low Countries going to France, while Serbia was returned to the Ottomans. Austria still retains the powerful fortress of Belgrade, however, taken from the Turks several years ago, and it remains the linchpin of their southern defensive strategy.

Finally, in the north, Russia, despite losing to the French, continues its inroads into Scandinavia, conquering Finland and the Danish peninsula. With Swedish and Danish resistance crumbling, there appears to be little chance of stopping the Russian bear in the far north.

Overall, it was a good day for France, the Ottomans, Prussia, and Russia, while Britain and Austria suffered minor defeats overall. Spain remains engaged in a war with Britain, but negotiations appear to be on the horizon. France still retains land dominance, though she is threatened by Prussia and Russia. Meanwhile, Britain's navy is still effectively untouchable.
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Re: MOTE Fall Game: Round 2

Post: # 97758Post Altaris
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:04 am

I don't think its fair to say the Ottomans inflicted heavy losses on the Russians all but 1 battle was around 3:1 casualty favoring Russians. Losses were fairly light in general for the Ruskies I lost around 75k total manpower and a big chunk of that was from attrition.

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Re: MOTE Fall Game: Round 2

Post: # 97760Post harbringerxv8
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:04 am

I was going off in game chatter and the ledger for casualties. 75k felt significant to me.
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Re: MOTE Fall Game: Round 2

Post: # 97762Post aphrochine
Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:03 am

harbringerxv8 wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:20 pm
Meanwhile, Britain's navy is still effectively untouchable.
Indeed. The #2 and #3 Naval powers in the game, met less than 1/2 of the Royal Navy and were defeated.


The Ottoman's successfully invaded Crete despite allowing the 2nd British Expedionary to escape intact, they suffered the loss of a large Corps in Sicily. However, the Ottomans repulsed the reinvasion of Crete...securing their peace.

Against the Spanish I'm no fool and will not be taunted into an unfavorable battle as Spain holds a significant numeric superiority. So I take my battles in detail, and I've maintained a healthy casualty ratio. The British occupy the Balearic Islands as well as blockading all major Spanish ports.
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Re: MOTE Fall Game: Round 2

Post: # 97764Post virtualrock
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:52 am

Well at least it’s definitely more than I lost.

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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97826Post harbringerxv8
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:47 pm

Session 4 (January 1800-February 1802)

This past session contained within it the largest amount of fighting thus far, with France cornered and invaded by a massive coalition (the Third, thus far) consisting of Britain, Prussia, Austria, Spain, and Russia. Despite being heavily outnumbered, and fighting on three major fronts, the French were successful in repelling their continental adversaries, inflicting numerous defeats on them. Britain alone remains at war, maintaining her naval blockade and occasionally launching raids into France. The other powers have retreated to lick their wounds. (Coalition/French players, PLEASE feel free to add to this AAR, as I was only really able to cover my sector)

The most successful front for France was in the Pyrenees, where the underprepared Spanish army was defeated time and again by a numerically inferior French force. A mere two corps sustained the French defense for several months against hundreds of thousands of Spanish attackers, who were turned back. In a few isolated cases, a massive Spanish force was able to defeat a single French corps, but only with heavy casualties. Due to their outnumbered position, the French were consistently on the back foot, but they were never in danger of being overrun.

An interesting war of movement took place in the valleys and rivers of Northern Italy, as the Austrians and Russians attempted to liberate Milan and Venice from their French overlords. Cautious Austrian tactics, however, did not mesh well against the seasoned French soldiers, and both armies were repeatedly mauled for their efforts. A number of tactical engagements did go the Coalition's way, but the Austrian field army, once well over two hundred thousand men, was reduced to a mere 40,000 by the constant fighting. Still, the heavy fighting, and the timely arrival of Russian and British reinforcements, prevented the French from pushing into Austrian territory.

It was from the North, though, that France faced her greatest threat. A combined force of British, Russians, and Prussians totaling nearly 400,000 men (270k of which were Prussian) swept down into the Low Countries to hit France's valuable port regions. What followed was a see-saw attritional conflict which saw no less than seven battles involving nearly half a million men each. Every one of these titanic clashes, at Maastricht, Clefeld, Brussels, Namur, and the others, seemed to hold the fate of the war in their hands. It began with a significant Prussian victory, and a push south which managed to take Brussels, followed by a French counterattack, and then another Prussian victory, and so on. Faced with the very real prospect of defeat, Bonaparte moved several of his elite corps north to deal with the problem.

These reinforcements, along with the excellent internal supply system utilized by the French army, proved to be the turning point in the Northern campaign. Even major Prussian victories cost tens of thousands of men, and the French had the manpower reserves to replace lost soldiers far more effectively than their opponents. With the British forced to redeploy to aid the Spanish and the Austrians, the campaign climaxed at the catastrophic battle of Antwerp, where the Prussians and Russians, shaken by a series of lightning strikes and forced retreats, were shattered. The Prussian Kavaleriekorps was destroyed, and the rest of the army, numbering some 150,000 survivors (and another 80,000 Russians) were routed, hounded by French cavalry for hundreds of miles, with their main body not far behind.

From here, the French were able to strike deep into Prussian territory, taking Dortmund, Kassel, Oldenburg, Minden, Paderborn, and even pushing as north as Lubeck and Hamburg, before the Prussian Army was able to escape and regroup in Berlin. Another 40,000 men had been lost in the retreat, leaving over 150,000 Frenchmen to loot and pillage Western Germany.

Overall, the armies of the Coalition had shown improvement over their previous engagements with the French, with the British and the Prussians being the standouts in being able to achieve notable victories. However, the strength of the French defensive position, as well as the quality of their leadership and doctrine, has allowed them to retain their dominance against virtually all of Europe. God help us if they go on the offensive.

Still, though, the French lost hundreds of thousands of veterans as casualties, and is still feeling the pressure of the English blockade, which shows no sign of slowing. How long can France navigate this stranglehold on her economy, and maintain her armies? It remains to be seen.

Finally, seeking opportunity, the Ottoman Empire declared war on Russia, assuming their weakness following their defeats to the French. This turned out to be a major miscalculation, however, as Russian forces from the Western Front have returned and scattered their Turkish opponents, and are penetrating deep into the Balkans, while handily refusing an incursion into the Caucuses. Russian peace demands are likely to be harsh in response to this treachery.
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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97831Post Sir Garnet
Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:24 am

Thank you for the perspicacious reportage of the Times

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Post: # 97833Post Altaris
Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:54 pm

Twas a good war. France put up a very nice fight to boot, Alex is going to be a tough nut to crack!

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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97868Post aphrochine
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:05 pm

harbringerxv8 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:47 pm
Session 4 (January 1800-February 1802)

This past session contained within it the largest amount of fighting thus far, with France cornered and invaded by a massive coalition (the Third, thus far) consisting of Britain, Prussia, Austria, Spain, and Russia. Despite being heavily outnumbered, and fighting on three major fronts, the French were successful in repelling their continental adversaries, inflicting numerous defeats on them. Britain alone remains at war, maintaining her naval blockade and occasionally launching raids into France. The other powers have retreated to lick their wounds. (Coalition/French players, PLEASE feel free to add to this AAR, as I was only really able to cover my sector)

The most successful front for France was in the Pyrenees, where the underprepared Spanish army was defeated time and again by a numerically inferior French force. A mere two corps sustained the French defense for several months against hundreds of thousands of Spanish attackers, who were turned back. In a few isolated cases, a massive Spanish force was able to defeat a single French corps, but only with heavy casualties. Due to their outnumbered position, the French were consistently on the back foot, but they were never in danger of being overrun.

An interesting war of movement took place in the valleys and rivers of Northern Italy, as the Austrians and Russians attempted to liberate Milan and Venice from their French overlords. Cautious Austrian tactics, however, did not mesh well against the seasoned French soldiers, and both armies were repeatedly mauled for their efforts. A number of tactical engagements did go the Coalition's way, but the Austrian field army, once well over two hundred thousand men, was reduced to a mere 40,000 by the constant fighting. Still, the heavy fighting, and the timely arrival of Russian and British reinforcements, prevented the French from pushing into Austrian territory.

It was from the North, though, that France faced her greatest threat. A combined force of British, Russians, and Prussians totaling nearly 400,000 men (270k of which were Prussian) swept down into the Low Countries to hit France's valuable port regions. What followed was a see-saw attritional conflict which saw no less than seven battles involving nearly half a million men each. Every one of these titanic clashes, at Maastricht, Clefeld, Brussels, Namur, and the others, seemed to hold the fate of the war in their hands. It began with a significant Prussian victory, and a push south which managed to take Brussels, followed by a French counterattack, and then another Prussian victory, and so on. Faced with the very real prospect of defeat, Bonaparte moved several of his elite corps north to deal with the problem.

These reinforcements, along with the excellent internal supply system utilized by the French army, proved to be the turning point in the Northern campaign. Even major Prussian victories cost tens of thousands of men, and the French had the manpower reserves to replace lost soldiers far more effectively than their opponents. With the British forced to redeploy to aid the Spanish and the Austrians, the campaign climaxed at the catastrophic battle of Antwerp, where the Prussians and Russians, shaken by a series of lightning strikes and forced retreats, were shattered. The Prussian Kavaleriekorps was destroyed, and the rest of the army, numbering some 150,000 survivors (and another 80,000 Russians) were routed, hounded by French cavalry for hundreds of miles, with their main body not far behind.

From here, the French were able to strike deep into Prussian territory, taking Dortmund, Kassel, Oldenburg, Minden, Paderborn, and even pushing as north as Lubeck and Hamburg, before the Prussian Army was able to escape and regroup in Berlin. Another 40,000 men had been lost in the retreat, leaving over 150,000 Frenchmen to loot and pillage Western Germany.

Overall, the armies of the Coalition had shown improvement over their previous engagements with the French, with the British and the Prussians being the standouts in being able to achieve notable victories. However, the strength of the French defensive position, as well as the quality of their leadership and doctrine, has allowed them to retain their dominance against virtually all of Europe. God help us if they go on the offensive.

Still, though, the French lost hundreds of thousands of veterans as casualties, and is still feeling the pressure of the English blockade, which shows no sign of slowing. How long can France navigate this stranglehold on her economy, and maintain her armies? It remains to be seen.

Finally, seeking opportunity, the Ottoman Empire declared war on Russia, assuming their weakness following their defeats to the French. This turned out to be a major miscalculation, however, as Russian forces from the Western Front have returned and scattered their Turkish opponents, and are penetrating deep into the Balkans, while handily refusing an incursion into the Caucuses. Russian peace demands are likely to be harsh in response to this treachery.
Pretty much the AAR for last night's session...
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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97871Post Altaris
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:37 pm

I'd argue the Anti-French Coalition fared quite a bit better in this war. May have ultimately ended in a rough draw (though some concessions were made to Austria in northeast Italy), but the French were definitely more bottled up and worn down this war than the previous ones.

Still impressive to see France take on everyone else single-handedly though :)

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Post: # 97873Post Zarin_lives
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:04 pm

I would agree this was the one session that Russian and Austrian troops made a real and lasting effect on the outcome of war. Alex has proven to be a scarily competent commander on a multi-front war though and much props needs to be given to him.
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Re: Fall Game MOTE 2: AAR and Banter

Post: # 97883Post aphrochine
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:21 am

Zarin_lives wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:04 pm
Alex has proven to be a scarily competent commander on a multi-front war though and much props needs to be given to him.
I would agree.

It was a much tougher draw, but he is still facing over 32 War Exhaustion, which wont get a reprieve from me until he frees all of Italy.
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